Presidential Oddities: James Madison the 4th President 1809 – 1817.

March 28, 2015

All American Presidents have some kind of oddity associated with them or their administration. The 4th President of the United States, James Madison was no exception.


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Madison was President from 1809 to 1817. He was elected twice under the Democratic-Republican banner. By today’s standards that party name alone is an oddity. In that era two main parties contested the Presidency. The Federalists who stood for a strong central government and the Democratic-Republicans who stood for States rights first, and believed the national government must respect those rights.

When he was nominated and ran for President in 1808 his running mate was George Clinton. The oddity was that he was the sitting Vice President. He served under President Thomas Jefferson. He ran for the presidential nomination against Madison, but ended up being nominated by his party as Madison’s vice presidential candidate. This was the first of two times this happened, the other being the re-election of John C. Calhoun in 1828. Madison himself served under Thomas Jefferson, the incumbent president, as his Secretary of State. When Jefferson did not seek a third term, Madison ran for his party’s nomination.

In 1812 Madison was again nominated, but Vice President George Clinton died April 20, 1812. His party’s caucus nominated Governor John Langdon of New Hampshire to be his new running mate. Governor Langdon declined the nomination because of his age, 70 years at the time. A second caucus nominated Governor Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts for vice president and he accepted even though he was relatively old at 68 years. This ticket of Madison-Gerry was elected and inaugurated.

On November 23, 1814 Vice President Gerry fell ill while in the Capitol. He went to his boarding house nearby and died later in the day.

President James Madison is the only President to have two Vice Presidents die in office. During both his terms the Vice Presidency was vacant for some time. There was no provision for filling the vacancy at that time. Over the years the office of Vice President has been vacant many times. The Twenty-Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution ratified February 10, 1967 established procedures for filling a vacancy in the office of Vice President.

President Madison was the first president to,

  • Have served in the House of Representatives.
  • Requested a Declaration of War from Congress (1812).
  • Be a wartime Commander-in-Chief (War of 1812)
  • Have an Inaugural Ball.
  • Wear long trousers instead of knee breeches.

I find these oddities and what-ifs of history to be fascinating. Stay tuned for more posts. Comments are always appreciated.

Is John McCain Nuts!?

August 31, 2008

McCain has lost it. Selecting Sarah Palin for his vice presidential candidate. It is downright scary.

Mr. McCain will be 72 if he is elected president. Not only that he is an individual who has had cancer several times. Now I surely hope he keeps his health and I don’t wish the worse on anyone, but like insurance agents we should all think – what if the worst case does happen.

Is Palin ready to be president? I think not. She has been the governor of a large, but sparsely populated state for less than two years. Before that she was the mayor of a town of 9,000 persons. Great experience granted, but certainly not enough to qualify her to be president. Foreign policy experience and military experience nil. Oh I forgot she does have a son who is in the military, guess that counts.

Sorry to be cynical, but this is a person who could be a heartbeat away from being President of the United States. Would I feel comfortable if she got a crisis call at three in the morning? No I wouldn’t.

Vice Presidential Candidate Predictions

August 20, 2008

Before Barack Obama and John McCain announce their choices of running mates I thought I would post my predictions.

Republican Ticket
John McCain and Tom Ridge

Democratic Ticket
Barack Obama and Joe Biden

If this comes about I actually believe they would be excellent choices. We’ll soon see as the conventions for both parties near. Traditionally the VP choices are announced a week or two before the conventions open.

Strange Bedfellows: Early Election Quirk – Part 2

May 29, 2008

One reader has asked about the results of the faulted selection method for Vice President prior to Amendment XII taking effect for the 1804 election. Before Amendment XII the loser of the presidential election became Vice President. Sometimes this created strange bedfellows as my previous post discussed.

(Left: Aaron Burr, one of the most contentious Vice Presidents – ever.)

Here are the results of the four presidential elections occurring before the amendment (party affiliation in brackets):

President George Washington (none), Vice President John Adams (none)
Not contentious because after all how could Adams argue that Washington, the Father of His Country, should not be first president of his country.

President George Washington (none), Vice President John Adams (Federalist)
Adams felt presidents should only serve one term and his also disagreed with Washington’s handling of many issues. A rift developed, but Washington was stuck with Adams.

President John Adams (Federalist), Vice President Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) Jefferson held almost complete opposite views on issues of the day. Jefferson stayed away and was hardly seen around Washington during Adam’s term.

President Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican), Vice President Aaron Burr (Democratic-Republican)
In this election both Jefferson and Burr wanted to be president and even though they were of the same political party, they held widely differing views. They ended up tied with 73 Electoral Votes each. This assured both men of at least one of the highest offices of the land. In accordance with the Constitution, the House of Representatives decided the result for the first time in history. After 36 ballots, the House elected Jefferson president and Burr vice president. Burr refused to remove himself from consideration even after pleading from his and Jefferson’s party. This created animosity between Jefferson and Burr. In addition Alexander Hamilton of the Federalist-controlled House advocated Jefferson as the lesser political evil than Burr. Later while Burr was vice president he killed Hamilton in a duel. This destroyed Burr’s career because Hamilton was very popular. Jefferson did not retain Burr as his vice presidential running mate in the election of 1804, the first one held under the new rules.

Having the loser become vice president and remain as part of the winner’s administration created many problems. Chief of these was the fact the vice president’s primary duty was to preside over the Senate and cast the deciding vote on legislation in the event of a tie. This came back to haunt the presidents several times.

Strange Bedfellows: Early Election Quirk

May 27, 2008

In the early years of the United States voters balloted for president only, not vice president. Electors were selected to vote in the Electoral College for president. No distinct Electors were to vote for a vice president.

Here was the quirk. The Electors met after the general election in the state capitols and cast their votes for president. The candidate with the most votes became President of the United States, the candidate with the second largest number of votes became Vice President of the United States. If there was a tie, the Senate voted on who would become vice president. A tie for president was decided by the House of Representatives.

So in fact the president was stuck with his opponent in the general election as the vice president in his administration. This was changed with Amendment XII of the Constitution passed by Congress December 9, 1803 and ratified June 15, 1804. Beginning with the election of 1804, there was distinct voting for president and vice president. Each part fielded a presidential and vice presidential candidate.

To illustrate how ridiculous the original concept was let’s look at how some historical election results would have played out if the amendment was never passed. In the cases of presidents who died in office (dio), note the person who would have become president.

President Abraham Lincoln (dio), Vice President George McClelland (a general Lincoln had fired)
1880 President James Garfield (dio), Vice President Winfield Hancock (no Chester Arthur)
President William McKinley (dio), Vice President William Jennings Bryan (no Teddy Roosevelt)
President Warren Harding (dio), Vice President James Cox (no Calvin Coolidge)
President Franklin D. Roosevelt (dio), Vice President Thomas Dewey (no Harry Truman
President John F. Kennedy (dio), Vice President Richard Nixon (no Lyndon Johnson
President George W. Bush, Vice President Al Gore
President George W. Bush, Vice President John Kerry

You get the idea. History would be very different if the Constitution had not been amended to correct this quirk. The consitutional amendment took the vice president from being a political thorn in the president’s side, to a silent partner (very silent in most cases). Certainly vice presidents could still be embarassing to the administration as we will see in future posts.

The Vice Presidency: Insignificant?

May 23, 2008

In this presidential election year one position becoming crucial to the candidates, is their choice of running mate. For those uninitiated a “running mate” is the party’s nominee for the office of Vice President of the United States. This individual is usually selected by the nominee for President, and then voted on at the convention by the party. This individual, if elected, succeeds to the presidency in the event of removal from office, death, or resignation of the sitting president. Historically the position has been considered unimportant.

No one wants the worst case scenario of losing the elected president, but that possibility is very real based on history. In my opinion much more attention needs to be placed on the selection of the vice presidential candidates. After all it is possible this individual may become president. The vice president is the nation’s insurance policy.

Senator John McCann is the presumptive Republican nominee for president this year. If elected he would be the oldest person to be inaugurated at age 72 years. Today he released his medical records which show he is healthy and his cancer of a few years ago has not reappeared. McCann is extremely qualified to be president based on his years of experience in politics and in the military. Conservatives say he is not conservative enough, Democrats say he is too conservative. He is presently conducting a search for his running mate. He needs to select a much younger person, but one with experience. The candidate will likely be from a large northern state to balance the ticket, McCann is the senator from Arizona, so perhaps someone from Ohio or a similar state. Mitt Romney is in the running because of his support in New England.

On the Democratic side the likely nominee is Barack Obama the junior senator from Illinois. When he choses a running mate that person should be older than him with more experience. Barack has very little experience in foreign affairs, so it is likely someone strong in foreign affairs would be selected. Obama’s selection will likely be white and perhaps from a southern state such as Florida or Texas which he would need to win in the general election.

Whoever the nominees of both parties select needs to be qualified, experienced and able to serve as president. The position of vice president is not unimportant. Eight vice presidents have succeeded to the presidency, seven because of the death of the sitting president, and one on the resignation of the president. There have been several unsuccessful assassination attempts, health issues with presidents, and two attempts to remove presidents from office (impeachments).

It is clear the person holding the office of vice president is very important. More attention needs to be paid to the selection process, and once elected the vice president needs to be kept in the loop of the administration.

In this sheet of stamps issued by the African country of Liberia the Presidents shown are from 1928 until 2000. Some interesting observations on the 14 presidents depicted,

  • 3 of them died in office (Harding, FDR, Kennedy)
  • 1 of them resigned (Nixon)
  • 4 of them survived deadly serious assassination attempts (FDR, Truman, Ford, Reagan)
  • 4 of them succeeded to the office of president (Coolidge, Truman, Johnson, Ford)
  • 2 of them were former vice presidents who were later elected president after leaving office (Nixon, George H.W. Bush)

Still think the vice presidency is unimportant?

Stay tuned for more postings related to this fascinating position created by the Founding Fathers in the Constitution, and the men who have held it.

A Heartbeat Away: 15 Interesting Facts About the Vice Presidency

April 28, 2008

Vice presidential powers as defined in the Constitution of the United States.
Presides over the Senate and casts deciding vote in event of ties.

Who was the youngest to serve?
John C. Breckinridge at age 36 in 1857.

Who was the oldest to serve?
Alben W. Barkley was 75 when he finished his term in 1953.

First to succeed to the presidency
John Tyler (photo above) in 1841 when President William Henry Harrison died after just one month in office.

Number who have succeeded to the presidency after the death of a president.

Who was the first to die in office?
George Clinton in 1812.

How many have died in office?
Seven. George Clinton in 1812, Elbridge Gerry in 1814, William R. King in 1853, Thomas Hendricks in 1885, Garret Hobart in 1899, and James Sherman in 1912.

Who was the most recent to succeed on the death of a president.
Lyndon Baines Johnson on November 22, 1963 after the assassination of John F. Kennedy.

How many have been elected to the presidency on their own.
Nine. John Adams in 1796, Thomas Jefferson in 1800, Martin Van Buren in 1836, Theodore Roosevelt in 1904, Calvin Coolidge in 1924, Harry S. Truman in 1948, Lyndon B. Johnson in 1964, Richard Nixon in 1968, and George H.W. Bush in 1988.

What person became vice president and president without being elected to either office?
Gerald R. Ford who was appointed Vice President under Richard Nixon. He then succeeded to the presidency when Nixon resigned.

What president had three different Vice presidents?
President Franklin Roosevelt had John Nance Garner, Henry Wallace and Harry Truman as his Vice Presidents, but then he was elected to four terms.

Who was the first resign during his term?
John C. Calhoun resigned in December 1832 to take a seat in the Senate.

How many have resigned?
Two. John C. Calhoun and Spiro Agnew

Who was the first female vice presidential candidate from a major political party?
Geraldine Ferraro. She was former Vice President Walter Mondale’s running mate in 1984 for the Democratic Party. They lost to President Ronald Reagan and Vice President George H.W. Bush.

Have any served under different presidents?
Yes. George Clinton under Presidents Thomas Jefferson and James Madison, and John C. Calhoun under Presidents John Quincy Adams and Andrew Jackson.


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